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by Tom Maxwell
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

In addition to the GE measurements indicating that the plane is the L10E, a symmetry analysis confirms that the plane is the L10E. The analysis is simple and performed by identifying seven points on the airframe image and making GE measurements between those points; seven points allow 21 measurement...
by Tom Maxwell
Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The mental condition of perceiving the human face or other known object in an otherwise random image is termed pareidolia. Scientist call perceiving a face or object in a cloud formation, the random pattern of a tree bark, etc. normal. And it’s quite normal to say “that looks like Abe Lincoln’s face...
by Tom Maxwell
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:59 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The circumstantial evidence continues to mount that the ONI photo is authentic; i.e. taken in 1937 after a new dock was built by the Japanese (Marshallese- Remier's oral history) and jutting out into the lagoon some 90º counter clockwise to the old German main dock used by the Japanese royal party i...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Here is that 2014 GE close up of the old dock pilings. Wooden above water but concrete below the water. A 1978 environmental impact statement made note of the long lasting pilings. It was an alternate site under consideration in 1978 for the subsequent dock refurbishment done sometime in the 80's. T...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The old German "main" dock was located about 3/4 mile south of the current dock. And I agree with you that the AE photo was taken from the center dock. But that dock is not the old German dock circa early1900's. The remnants of the old dock described by the PIM article about the royal visit goes out...
by Tom Maxwell
Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

There is another feature of the photo that deserves investigation and that is the change in the horizon line that appears behind the men on the dock. Some observers thought perhaps it was evidence of a photo splice or some other digital (photoshop) combining of two images. Later it was explained tha...
by Tom Maxwell
Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

That article in the April issue of the paper is dated Feb 10 so it is very early in the year 1936. Not surprising that the new dock is not mentioned. Robert Reimer stated that the dock was constructed in 1936. I am searching the PIM for more news about the dock remembering that as 1936 progressed th...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Thanks RS, that is a great piece of research. While no pictures of the dock are shown, the article description of events tells the tale. I am confident that this article absolutely proves the dock in the AE Jaluit photo is 1937. There are two important excerpts from the article that clinches the arg...
by Tom Maxwell
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:56 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

I've been unable to find any Jabor dock photos on line of the period immediately previous to 1935-37. The only on-line photos I have found are from the early 1900's. I have attached a 1903 photo. There is also a 1904 photo that shows basically the same thing: mostly wooden construction and a light r...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

If the travelogue reference by the debunk blogger is indeed a book, then additional copies should be found in libraries or private collection(s). The National Geographic article about the travelogue says the title translates to The Ocean "Lifeline": The Condition of our South Seas" . The NG article ...
by Tom Maxwell
Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:40 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

One of the things I see on the Jaluit dock photo is what I believe is Amelia's suitcase. Her design choice is shown in the 1936 advertising image along side the Electra. The question as to why the supposed "Amelia" figure is not wearing the checkered shirt she wore on leaving Lae is easily answered;...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Recent updates : almost everyone has seen the Jaluit dock photo. Declared debunked by most, I believe the photo is significant and I plan to discuss details with later posts. The research vessel Falkore operated by the Schimdt Oceangraphic Institute (SOI) apparently bypassed an opportunity to SCUBA ...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri May 05, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Yes RS I am always reviewing and attempting to find better sat images. The difficulty is that while most modern satellite images have the necessary resolution, the capture moment must have brilliant sunlight, sunlight at the correct angle such that the reflection is not targeted away from the lens,...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri May 05, 2017 4:33 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Yes RS I am always reviewing and attempting to find better sat images. The difficulty is that while most modern satellite images have the necessary resolution, the capture moment must have brilliant sunlight, sunlight at the correct angle such that the reflection is not targeted away from the lens,...
by Tom Maxwell
Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:27 am
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 79
Views: 70631

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Yes, thanks RS. I got on the wrong track thinking it was a USAAF aircraft. Navy aircraft PBJ serial number ASN 351131. I am reluctant to talk to the Navy MIA people because, as you and I agree, it's most likely not the PBJ. Instead it might be the L10E and I don't want to raise the expectations of t...