| Chip Lambert & Pam LambertDiscovery of USS Mississinewa
 Interview with Lewis "Chip" Lambert and Pam Lambert about the discovery of
            the fleet oiler USS Mississinewa (AO-59). It was sunk on November 20, 1944
            in the Ulithi
                Anchorage by a Japanese Kaiten suicide torpedo. The ship
                was the only US Navy ship sunk by Kaiten attack alone, and is
                the grave site of over 
          fifty Americans. After searching from March 27 to April 6 2001, the
        ship was located - 57 years after its sinking.
 
  What got you and your wife interested in WWII 
    and diving? We took a dive group to Palau in 1989. The group went home and Pam and I were going on to Yap. A typhoon 
    interrupted air travel. Sitting on the verandah of the Palau Pacific 
    resort consuming adult beverages, we met Dan 
      Bailey, who, with Dave Buller, had just found the 'Helmet Wreck'. 
    Many hours later, trips were planned and information exchanged (or maybe 
    it was the other way around). Next trip, Pam, Dan and I found the Samidare 
    (Pam's picture at the Samidare site is on the cover of his Palau book). 
    Many trips latter, including visits to the National Archives and a bulging 
    personal library, we have never looked back.
 My first dive was when a neighbor, in 1961, bought a 
    Dacor double-hose reg. and tank at the local sporting goods store. It 
    came with a book that we read at least 2 pages of before putting the 
    tank on and going down. All I remember was, 'don't hold your breath'. 
    Some things never change. I almost flunked out of University of Colorado 
    because I sat through three showings of the movie 'Silent World' when 
    I was supposed to be taking a final. I became certified during graduate 
    school in 1967, taught for BSAC during my time in Saudi Arabia. In 1984, 
    started a dive shop with 4 others in San Jose, CA, and became a PADI 
    Instructor. I have dived: British Columbia, California coast and inland 
    lakes, Hawaii, Fiji, Vanuatu, New Caledonia, Truk, Yap, Ulithi, Palau, 
    New Zealand, Solomon's, Australia, Arabian Gulf, the inland lake and 
    well of Saudi Arabia, Red Sea, Cypress, Scotland, Maine, Florida, Antigua 
    and the Galapagos Islands.  My late father started for the Western Pacific, but 
    the troopship broke down and floundered at sea for a week before being 
    towed back to Seattle!  Speak about your connection with the veterans of 
    the shipThe USS Mississinewa (AO-59) was sunk by kaiten torpedo on November 20, 1944.
 
  As we have acquired more knowledge, we have had the 
    opportunity to share it with Mississinewa veteran groups. These folks have truly become family members. We are in 
    constant contact with many of them. They share their stories and first 
    hand information, we try to finalize many of the unsolved events that 
    they vividly remember from the past. They have had an enormous effect 
    on my interest and the willingness of both of us to commit large amounts 
    of money for these trips. They are my heroes. The rewards of these relationships 
    far exceed any short-term pleasure that might be acquired on a cruise 
    ship or other vacation destination. Mike Mair who is writing a book on the Mississinewa's 
    history. His dad was on board when the ship sunk, and received the 
    news very despondently. Mike is extremely knowledgeable and was the 
    primary reason we found the ship. I can only repeat what Mike has told 
    me about how the crew members are responding. He has first hand interviews. Elaborate about your first dive on the MississinewaPam describes it as an obsession, I felt 
    I was just "focused". After spending hundreds of 
    hours researching the ship and 6 1/2 days looking for it, 
    when I saw the spike on my bottom finder, I screamed "We 
    found it", but nobody believed me. I turned the boat 
    around and we hit it again. Kenneth Wur, one of the Ulithians 
    helping us, put his mask on and looked below. He claimed he 
    saw it. I asked him three times what he saw, because we had 
    a false sighting 2 days earlier. He kept saying, "something, 
    it must be the ship". At that point, after all the time, 
    I still didn't believe we had found it.
 
  We donned dive gear. I was the first in and 
    while waiting, reluctantly put my head under while waiting 
    for the others to join me. I didn't see anything. Expecting 
    another disappointment, I sank down about 15' and saw it.  I pegged my ascent rate indicator, yelled 
    at everybody that it was down there and to follow me. It was 
    a slow, ethereal descent. I wanted to see everything, but 
    couldn't believe I was seeing anything. An incredible cloud 
    of fish illuminated by the noon sun rose out of the crystal 
    clear water to meet us.  The surreal scene was overwhelming. We had 
    worked on a dive plan, but after taking pictures of the group, 
    everybody found their own area of interest. I just kept touching 
    it to make sure it was real. Fortunately, Pam wasn't quite 
    as excited, because I had to finish the dive sharing her air. This is an honest, but I think, an unusual 
    feeling. After our 1st dive, we went to the island of Elipig, 
    for lunch and to video our impressions. I was almost afraid 
    to go back for a second dive because I didn't think it would 
    still be there. Fortunately, it was.  
  The ship is upside down, with the top side 
    buried in the sand. The depth to the ship is 120 feet. The 
    ship rolled as it sank. The bow went down first and caught 
    on its port side, which lies on the bottom. The ship continued 
    to roll to the port, twisting around the huge area on the 
    starboard side damaged by the kaiten and the explosion in 
    the #2 and #3 wing tanks that contained aviation gas. The 
    majority (~85%) of the ship is completely inverted.  The superstructure is buried or compressed 
    into the sand, which has filled in around the rails. The starboard 
    rail of the bow comes up to ~85'. The deck is vertical and 
    there are some open hatches. The stern, with the rudder and 
    twin screws, is in ~75'.  The Navy was very successful with its anti-fouling 
    materials, because nothing is growing on the bottom. The water 
    is the clearest of any wreck sites I've been on (Truk, Palau, 
    Vanuatu, etc.) We made a promise 
    to the veterans and the families of the deceased, that, if 
    found, we would not penetrate the wreck. It is a grave site 
    for 50 sailors and it would be the same as going into a cemetery 
    and digging in the plots for remains. We kept our word and 
    hope that others have the same respect and sensitivity for 
    the site. However, of the many interesting things we saw on 
    the exterior, one piece of plating was incongruous with the 
    rest. We felt it might be part of the kaiten and others that 
    have seen the photos, agree.   Did you investigate the other known Kaiten 
    wrecks in the area?Not enough time. We found this with about 
    30 minutes of search time remaining before we ended the trip. 
    Fortunately, PMA rearranged the flight schedule so we could 
    have the extra day of searching. Also, the island ran out 
    of gas. Everybody pooled what was left (they couldn't go out 
    fishing) and gave it to us so we could continue the search.
 Any other upcoming trips or dive plans?We are going back to Palau in the fall. We found a number 
    of sites that are potential grave sites that may get more investigation 
    from CILHI (Central Identification Laboratory Hawaii)
 Thank you, Mr. Lambert and congratulations on your 
    discovery 
 
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