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by Tom Maxwell
Sun May 27, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The flight endurance question is the main reason many can't accept the Orona idea; Amelia said she was running low on gas-how could the additional 400 miles to Orona be flown? The Kelly Johnson papers on endurance for the L10E that Amelia flew indicates 4000 miles in still air given the flight altit...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The excitement of the news media over the bones analysis by a respected source using flawed data has run it's course and the bones idea seems to have retreated to the cemetery of proofs not overwhelming. The AE mystery investigation seems destined to sleep until another multimillion dollar search en...
by Tom Maxwell
Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

It has been suggested on another discussion forum that perhaps the two light skinned persons in the Jaluit dock photo are Willard and Mary Price. The couple traveled the world and lived in Japan for several years in the middle thirties, visiting several Pacific island groups. But the travelers would...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The short video clip here https://youtu.be/GqiaPnCkEow shows Amelia, George, and Paul Mantz checking and loading stuff for the world flight. Midway through, George carries the raft into the scene. Paul and Amelia unzip the carry bag and Paul pulls the raft from the bag. Paul, a man of slightly less ...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

In my Dec 7 post, I failed to mention that a professor of optic science at one of the nation's leading universities has verified the magnification of M=1.33 for this type of satellite/underwater photo. I had a e-mail conversation with him in June 2017.
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

In addition to the GE measurements indicating that the plane is the L10E, a symmetry analysis confirms that the plane is the L10E. The analysis is simple and performed by identifying seven points on the airframe image and making GE measurements between those points; seven points allow 21 measurement...
by Tom Maxwell
Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The mental condition of perceiving the human face or other known object in an otherwise random image is termed pareidolia. Scientist call perceiving a face or object in a cloud formation, the random pattern of a tree bark, etc. normal. And it’s quite normal to say “that looks like Abe Lincoln’s face...
by Tom Maxwell
Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:59 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The circumstantial evidence continues to mount that the ONI photo is authentic; i.e. taken in 1937 after a new dock was built by the Japanese (Marshallese- Remier's oral history) and jutting out into the lagoon some 90º counter clockwise to the old German main dock used by the Japanese royal party i...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:21 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Here is that 2014 GE close up of the old dock pilings. Wooden above water but concrete below the water. A 1978 environmental impact statement made note of the long lasting pilings. It was an alternate site under consideration in 1978 for the subsequent dock refurbishment done sometime in the 80's. T...
by Tom Maxwell
Fri Nov 17, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

The old German "main" dock was located about 3/4 mile south of the current dock. And I agree with you that the AE photo was taken from the center dock. But that dock is not the old German dock circa early1900's. The remnants of the old dock described by the PIM article about the royal visit goes out...
by Tom Maxwell
Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

There is another feature of the photo that deserves investigation and that is the change in the horizon line that appears behind the men on the dock. Some observers thought perhaps it was evidence of a photo splice or some other digital (photoshop) combining of two images. Later it was explained tha...
by Tom Maxwell
Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

That article in the April issue of the paper is dated Feb 10 so it is very early in the year 1936. Not surprising that the new dock is not mentioned. Robert Reimer stated that the dock was constructed in 1936. I am searching the PIM for more news about the dock remembering that as 1936 progressed th...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:59 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

Thanks RS, that is a great piece of research. While no pictures of the dock are shown, the article description of events tells the tale. I am confident that this article absolutely proves the dock in the AE Jaluit photo is 1937. There are two important excerpts from the article that clinches the arg...
by Tom Maxwell
Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:56 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

I've been unable to find any Jabor dock photos on line of the period immediately previous to 1935-37. The only on-line photos I have found are from the early 1900's. I have attached a 1903 photo. There is also a 1904 photo that shows basically the same thing: mostly wooden construction and a light r...
by Tom Maxwell
Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:18 pm
Forum: Wrecks & Losses
Topic: Plane in the lagoon at Orona
Replies: 54
Views: 19961

Re: Plane in the lagoon at Orona

If the travelogue reference by the debunk blogger is indeed a book, then additional copies should be found in libraries or private collection(s). The National Geographic article about the travelogue says the title translates to The Ocean "Lifeline": The Condition of our South Seas" . The NG article ...